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Tim_the_bloke

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Posted: 11:06am 28 Jun 2010
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Some time ago I looked at an electric car which was for sale locally. I took lots of photos as it was prospectively for a family member in WA (the other side of the country) who was returning to Sydney and wanted a car (he is a greenie).
At the time I was also playing around with a JavaScript image gallery for my commercial site and used the car images as a test run. The page is still up on my site but not linked to in the menus.
Electric Car images
I hesitated to share this as it looks like just a link to my commercial unrelated site , but it was how I shared the images with my family as is relevent to this forum.
Les, who did the electric car conversion did a neat job. His workshop had several other vehicles at various stages of conversion. I was impressed with his work.
A manual car without a cluch pedal was a little weird.
 
VK4AYQ
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Posted: 12:54pm 28 Jun 2010
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Hi Tim

Any specs on the car, range speed etc.

All the best

Bob
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[Quote=Tim_the_bloke]A manual car without a cluch pedal was a little weird.

When I was young and in college, I had a friend who put a VW bug engine and trans-axle into a 30-foot skiff. It worked like a champ.

In heavy seas, he ran it in a lower gear and when we had flat waters, he jammed it into 4th and we skipped right along. The "weird" part was he had a clutch and even the driver's seat from the car in the boat. Together, we ran that thing from Newport Beach to Catalina Island and back once (27 miles one-way). I know the song says "26 miles across the sea. Santa Cataline is a waitin' for me." but that's if you leave from San Piedro, north of Newport.

My point here is: Would there be any advantage to using a constant-speed motor against a clutched transmission? It doesn't seem weird at all to me; then again, I'm a bit 'different' anyway!



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Tim_the_bloke

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Posted: 10:44am 29 Jun 2010
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  VK4AYQ said  
Any specs on the car, range speed etc.

No, I never got specs. It was a little Mazda about 10 years old. I think Les said to expect a safe range of 60km but perhaps he meant 120km round trip. We took it for a ride and it drove very well, accelerated great, in fact it went a lot faster than I would normally drive.
As a commuter vehicle it would suit someone who could plug it in at work as well as home. This has made me notice power points in the multi level council car parks near my work and wonder how long I could get away with charging there (I suppose I should not)
 
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Neat job.

The 3 pin mains plug in the fuel filler got me, as it is backwards to a standard socket so to use it you would need a cable with male pins on each end which i think is highly dangerous and outright stupid.

Unless the car has an inverter and the socket is for mains power out.

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Posted: 01:28pm 29 Jun 2010
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Hi Pete,

I think these are suicide leads, and I have seen them for home built generator backup connections as well. Not good.

Gordon.


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Hi Tim

Did he give you any idea as to the cost of doing the conversion, as most of the ones L have asked have quoted prices that would run the car on petrol for 10 years.
I have built a electric hybrid car over thirty years ago out of scrounged parts and resurrected batteries and it was a cost effective device as the total cost was under $500 but the ones I see now are a great thing if you are a millionaire not a pensioner.

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Bob
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Robb
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Posted: 01:36am 30 Jun 2010
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If you look close you can see those are male pins sticking out there You plug your extension lead in there like a caravan.

Like that:
Edited by Robb 2010-07-01
 
Downwind

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I blew to picture up as big as i could get and it still looks like a suicide lead to me.

I will take your work that it is not, as it would be the most dumb idea ever if it was the way it appears to be.

Cant help wondering how long your extension cord would last plugged into a carpark GPO.
The copper value would make it vanish the first day i would expect.

Pete.
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GWatPE

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Hi Tim,

I blew the pic up as well to try and see. Still looks like a sockert, but will take your word. I await 3D pics. The photographer and 2 helpers could have leaned to one side to get a better shot.

If I had an EV, I would want inductive coupled charging, without any cords, and a 300km range.

Gordon.


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Tim_the_bloke

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Posted: 10:49am 30 Jun 2010
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No suicide lead required. Under the petrol cap are three prongs. A normal extension lead is what is attached.
Though I like the term suicide lead. I have been tempted to prepare one to connect a generator up to a house circuit during blackouts. But with kids around I resist.

Cost: Spend $10K buying a car. Don't get a cheaper (older worn out) one as the conversion is a lot of effort to do on a worn out car. Then Les would charge $8K to $12K for the full conversion depending upon what grade of batteries you select.
Edited by Tim_the_bloke 2010-07-01
 
GreenD88

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Posted: 10:20pm 30 Jun 2010
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  GWatPE said   Hi Tim,

I blew the pic up as well to try and see. Still looks like a sockert, but will take your word. I await 3D pics. The photographer and 2 helpers could have leaned to one side to get a better shot.

If I had an EV, I would want inductive coupled charging, without any cords, and a 300km range.

Gordon.



Looks like a male connector in the charging door and a female connector on the extension cord.
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VK4AYQ
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Posted: 11:59am 01 Jul 2010
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Hi Tim

The overall cost isn't to bad, If it could be kept for ten years with a couple of battery updates it would be an excellent town car, I hope we see more of these conversions in the future as Our drug like dependence on petrol has to be beaten.

All the best

Bob
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Trev

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Posted: 10:58am 07 Jul 2010
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Nothing suicidal about that cord plug in, all legit.

Bob, the only way to fix the drug like dependance is make a conscious decision.

Trev @ drivebynature.com
 
VK4AYQ
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Posted: 12:44pm 07 Jul 2010
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Hi Trev

I would dearly like to do a EV and am looking at options at the moment, the cost of a useful size motor is the biggest draw back, I have been looking for a 110 volt out of a crane, about 30 HP, I did have one years ago but didn't go ahead at the time due to lack of a suitable controller, They are a bit heavy but bullet proof, the ones I had where out of a crane I converted to hydraulic drive, it only had resistance controllers which are very inefficient for EV work.

My idea is a hybrid with a small diesel motor constant charger running on bio diesel to reduce the battery costs and weight.

So at the moment In stuck with petrol.

All the best

Bob
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